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Much of the impressive Germanic art and WWI & WWII art and images has rekindled my passion for my German roots.

Where is my family from~ Ostpreußen, Allenstein und Königsberg

What am I~ ein Junker

Thus I love the arts...and I have begun to become a patron of the artists on this site...little by little...

Deutschland über alles...

First stanza
Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt,
Wenn es stets zu Schutz und Trutze
Brüderlich zusammenhält.
Von der Maas bis an die Memel,
Von der Etsch bis an den Belt,
|: Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
  Über alles in der Welt! :|
"Germany, Germany above everything,
Above everything in the world,
When, for protection and defence, it always
takes a brotherly stand together.
From the Meuse to the Memel,
From the Adige to the Belt,
Germany, Germany above everything,
  Above everything in the world!"

Second stanza
Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang
Sollen in der Welt behalten
Ihren alten schönen Klang,
Uns zu edler Tat begeistern
Unser ganzes Leben lang.
|: Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
  Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang! :|
"German women, German loyalty,
German wine and German song
Shall retain in the world
Their old beautiful chime
And inspire us to noble deeds
During all of our life.
|: German women, German loyalty,
  German wine and German song! :|"

Third stanza
(Germany's current National Anthem)
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Für das deutsche Vaterland!
Danach lasst uns alle streben
Brüderlich mit Herz und Hand!
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Sind des Glückes Unterpfand;
|: Blüh' im Glanze dieses Glückes,
  Blühe, deutsches Vaterland! :|
"Unity and justice and freedom
For the German fatherland!
For these let us all strive
Brotherly with heart and hand!
Unity and justice and freedom
Are the pledge of fortune;
|: Flourish in this fortune's blessing,
  Flourish, German fatherland! :|"

Now then...back to the love of arts...
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:icontigergirl1945:
I have this song on my I-pod :D
Though I have to say the one line that always confused me was the 'German women, German wine" part, that just dosnt seem like somthing you include in your national anthem unless you're the french. Maybe they should have said 'German beer' instead ;)
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*julius1880 Jun 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I think they are refering to Mosel wine...not fully sure...you liked my post though?
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:icontigergirl1945:
Maybe, I just always found that line odd.
Of coarse I liked it :D
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*julius1880 Jun 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I am very proud of my German roots. In this sense I am kaiser treue. I saw your icon and wondered if you are Jewish or just like the Star of David. I have friends who are Jewish and my family in German during WWII helped many escape...I am just wondering about your thoughts.
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:icontigergirl1945:
Very glad you asked! Yes I am Jewish and I'm also German. I'm also very proud of my German roots and it annoys the living heck out of me when I say I'm German and people immediatly say 'Nazi!' (which happens a lot, appearantly in a lot of people's minds German and Jewish just dont mix.) I have friends that are German and not Jewish (one is even the desendant of a nazi and a I mean a full-blown, love hitler, hate Jews, nazi) but I dont hold that agiants her because she's one of the best people I know. And I love modern day Germany and the history of Germany (excluding the Hitler period.) And I also like Kaiser :)
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*julius1880 Jun 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
My sister's husband is half Jewish. When it comes to the 3rd reich, I have an interest in it as well. I had family in the concentration camps due to being Freemasons and anti-Nazis. But there is this part of it thatdraws me to it like a moth to the flame.

Did you know that the colonel of the regiment that Hitler was in was Jewish? I re-enact WWI and a couple of the guys in may unit portray German Jews. My family comes from East Prussian Junkers. To me the Jews are gods people like Christians are. The few in the Bible who condemed Christ had the devil in their hearts, not all Jews.

The Holocaust was a terrible thing, but Germans today are taught to forget their Imperial past and all of their past. Germany should be a noble place, not one where they have to say sorry all the time.

As for you, I wonder if Frederick the Great took your ancestors in or the Great Elector...very interesting to say the least...
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:icontigergirl1945:
I'm also interested in the third reich, but more in a 'how the heck did that happen' way.
Yes, I did, Hitler knew a couple of Jews. This is why I always say knowing somone of a certain race or religon dosnt autimatically make you free of racism. You have to earn that.
Well, Jesus was a Jew, the 'King of the Jews' even. I'm Jewish so I dont think he's son of god but he sure was a nice guy. You mean the Romans that crucified him?
We're all God's people (except terrorists and nazis and the like.)
'Forget their imperial past' you must have the wrong Germany because none of my German friends ever stop talking about their imperial past :D
As a Jew, I'd feel safer in Germany then any other place in Europe, especially considering where the economy is going.
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*julius1880 Jun 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
You have a great deal of wisdon in this age...Also, I am glad that the Germans you hang around with are proud with their Imperial past...I have taken several classes regarding the 3rd Reich when I was an undergrad at Pitt (break: did you know thta members of the SS restructured the University of Pittsburgh in the 1`930's?)...all to the classes had this over sinister side...Ok, there was this evil, I acknowledge it...but who joined and why...you have struck an excellent question? I have several books (one a Penguin Book) which outlines who actually joined the NSDAP party...My theory...Germany today as it was in the 1920's is big on order...throw them out of whack and they need strong leadership...But in the 1920's there was a huge underlying antisemintic feeling in ALL Catholic countries...The Nazis sold themselves in the North of Germany and in East Prussia as the consertatives who would restore order...Overall the Nazis formed a coalition that hated socialism, communism, and anything against leftist ideals...In the end I too would stand beside von Stauffenberg in '44 to save Germany from the Nazis...Do you live in Germany now? I have been there many times and love the country. It is clean and in order and peaceful, excelt for the turkish gangs, communists, and nazis...
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:iconkoenigruprecht:
Du bist mir sofort sympathisch :D
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*julius1880 Jun 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Danke....
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